Quran and Muhammad

[Jesus John]

"For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." (Matthew 6:21)

[Postulare42]

An interesting variation. Most versions read: "...surely goodness and mercy shall follow me..."

[Jesus John]

"Please do not exalt me like the Christians did to Jesus, I am a man. Mention me only as a servant and apostle of God" Muhammad bin Abdullah (Muhammad son of Abdullah).

[Jesus John]

“No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and mammon." (Matthew 6:24)

"Never has God endowed any man with two hearts in one body" (33:4)

"God sets forth a parable: A man who has for his masters several partners, [all of them] at variance with one another, and a man depending wholly on one person: can these two be deemed equal as regards their condition? [Nay,] all praise is due to God [alone]: but most of them do not understand this." (39:29)

[Jesus John]

In the name of ALLAH, the most Gracious, the dispenser of Grace,

"O Mankind! Worship your Sustainer, who has created you and those who lived before you, so that you might remain conscious of Him who has made the earth a resting-place for you and the sky a canopy, and has sent down water from the sky and thereby brought forth fruits for your sustenance: do not, then, claim that there is any power that could rival God, when you know [that He is One]." (2:21-22)

[Jesus John]

1- Who am I?
2- Who is the one who say "me"?
3- Why do I live?
4- Why do I die?
5- Does this life belong to me?
6- If yes, is everything under my control?
7- If no, who is the ruler?
8- Everything seems to have an opposite, what is the opposite of this life?
9- Where am I going?
10- If this is a journey do I have a mission?
11- If yes, what is it?
12- Is this all a coincidence?
13- If yes, how can a coincidence continue in a %100 success for thousand of years?

[Archbishop Michael-John]

1. Who am I?
You are the spectator within, a soul, as distinct from your mind and body.

2. Who is the one who say “me”?
The “Me” that is you in your entirety is the whole of your being not just the sum of all your parts; not just your eyes, heart, brain and memories etc, but your whole body, mind and soul. If you split an atom into its parts (without going into string theory, muons, quarks and positrons) there are electrons, protons, neutrons and electrical and sub-nuclear forces that bind them: the whole is always greater than the sum of its parts!

3. Why do I live?
You live because God wants you to live. Our lives in this universe are merely a class in a much larger academy. You are here to complete the course, for which there will be questions later!

4. Why do I die?
Death of the physical body is merely a transition of the soul into readiness for judgement by Christ.

5. Does this life belongs to me?
NO! You were bought at a price! Your life belongs to God. The faithful in Christ are also temples of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19-20, 7:23).

6. If yes, is everything under my control?
You have free will; the future is how you make it. God calls but not everyone listens (Acts 2:37-42)!

7. If no, who is the ruler?
God, but Yeshua has authority as our spiritual mediator. See 1 Timothy 2:5-6a.

8. Everything seems to have an opposite, what is the opposite of this life?
Life vs. Death...
Righteous Life vs. Sinful Life
which corresponds to:
Spiritual Life vs. Spiritual Death
See Deuteronomy 30:11-20.

9. Where am I going?
That is up to you! You can decide.

10. If this is a journey do I have a mission?
Oh yes!

11. If yes, what is it?
For some their mission is to be a parent, for some it is to become a carpenter, for some it is to follow a religious calling, for others it may be to achieve an objective, experience or witness something, or to play a role in a much larger and complex series of events involving the lives of others. You will know your calling, it is written in your heart (Jeremiah 31:33)! You just have to listen!

12. Is this all a coincidence?
No!

Firstly: don’t look upon Genesis as a literal exposé of the history of the universe but as a poetic allegory describing through metaphors (bearing in mind the scientific understanding of the time) of that history with the first day lasting a minute fraction of a second and the second day lasting for millions of years. Adam and Eve being representative of early modern Homosapiens who had left primitive life behind i.e. upon partaking of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.

Secondly: The entire life of Christ is laid out into the fabric of the Hebrew Testament, with references to and prophecies of him in every single book, written between 100 and 1200 years before he was born. No other religion can boast of so many already ancient prophecies of a Messiah, which then actually came to fruition! We are now finding archaeological evidence that supports the existence of Christ, the Apostles and the authenticity of the Gospels with the discoveries of St Peter’s ossuary, Simon of Cyrene’s ossuary, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Nag Hammadi, Gabriel’s tablet and the Messianic tomb.

13. If yes, how can a coincidence continue for thousand of years?
When we speak of coincidence, more often than not, this is God at work!

[Jesus John]

Dear Brother,

Thank you for your interest and answer.
I am happy to see that we are close.

I am here for 3 year, I can understand Jesus as a mediator but can still not understand what you mean with the judgement of Jesus. I beg your pardon but why shall Jesus judge me? Did he create me, does he feed me, do I live under his control?

Thanks in advance.

Love,

Oguzhan.

[Postulare42]

Beloved Brother Oguzhan,

One of the traditional views on the subject is this.

Yeshua was the embodiment of all the words of the Father as expressed through the prophets . . . a living expression of what the Father wanted us to know about Himself and our relationship with Him.

His mission was to make the Father visible to us . . . to be a living witness to the truth about the Father. He was also to be a living proof that humans could live according to the agreements with the Father; and that our deficiencies receive mercy if, despite our weaknesses, we are honest and sincere in our efforts and motivations. Further, Yeshua was to show to us the most important secret to following those agreements. This is that if we come from a loving place in ourselves, make love our source and our goal, then everything else becomes righteous and holy . . . even our mistakes. While Abraham was accepted because he believed, and others later were accepted because they feared, we were to find acceptance because we love.

Because Yeshua fulfilled these requirements to the point of torture and death, in this tradition Yeshua was given the role of judge, with the holy spirit of Truth as the lawyer for our defense. In a human sense, Yeshua can judge us better, and with more understanding because he himself is human. It might be helpful to understand this a limited "home rule", with one of our own to rule over us; one who fully understands and is loyal to the ways of the Father, but is also completely one of us, and understands us fully.

Some of the early followers had much trouble trying to understand the idea that what we know of as Yeshua, also had prior existence in a spiritual sense. Today, we still have trouble understanding and discussing things of the spirit. Each person brings their own culture and imaginings to this idea. We have trouble imagining something that is not like us, that is not motivated by hormones and the emotions they cause. We create our imaginings in our own image, or at least in the form of the physical things around us. (This is one reason for the rule against idolatry, for our own good, to encourage us to grow beyond this limitation.) We are invited to grow beyond the merely mammalian soil from which we grow, to develop an affinity for the invisible.

For example, it is difficult to love a beautiful woman. It is far easier to desire her, without ever considering those invisible qualities that make her a unique creation. This desire and attachment to physical things are normal and natural in themselves . . . if all one wishes is to remain a mammal. Followers of Yeshua are invited to also become something else that is not purely physical.

According to this tradition, Yeshua is our best possible judge because he proved himself able to live, and die, at the point where physical and spiritual meet. Because of his unique unity-of-will with the Father, AND his physical unity with us, he is capable of being the best interpreter. Further, he was not the first. (Even Abraham advocated for humans) Neither was he the last. (We are told that those of us who attain unity with the will of the Father will also be judges) He was the best.

The problem with this tradition is that it is an attempt to form transcendent principles into the form of things that we can understand. As with most other such understandings, they are the work of human hands and easily can become mental idols. Worse, they can be as dead as stone standing in a niche or physical temple where we can ignore them when they are inconvenient . . . where we worship ourselves throughthe illusions of our understandings. Worse still, these understandings can become the idols before which we sacrifice others to this thing of our creation.

P42

Pax Intrantibus
Pax et Bonum

[Jesus John]

Dear Brother,

Thank you very much for your prompt answer.
Few months ago I listened a sermon.
The scholar said that all combinations of the word ALLAH has one common meaning; Love.
This scholar defends that evil is not a proportion of ALLAH while mostly believe that it is.
Due this view the Qur'an translations are %90 false because if we will read it we shall see a cruel instead of a loving God.
Man has a potential to act good or evil, this depends to his choice.
How can we blame our Lord if we do evil by our hands?

I come from a tradition who accept all the prophets (Jesus included) as a human. If they were another being they could not be followed as a model. I understand why the Lord is called the Father. In the earliest time Aramaic Abba was used to describe the English word Lord or Teacher, like Rab in Arabic.

I am carrying Jesus in my heart, one day we shall meet.