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Old 30th September 2009
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Dear Brothers & Sisters,

Is it a sin to wear medals of saints who were likely trinitarians? (e.g. St.Francis). I have a St. Dismas (the good theif) medal, but since he was not trinitarian so I have no problem wearing it, but would it be profane for an Arian Catholic to wear a medal of a saint who was pro-trinity?

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Old 30th September 2009
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Hey Joe. I guess it depends on who it is? I'm not sure if I'd wear any medal of any saint. This is actually the first time I hear of medals of saints. I don't think Francis is someone who is disapproved of too much in the ACC.

... I would probably ask myself if they would have rather burned me or treated me as a fellow Christian. It would be a disturbing thought to have the former hanging around my neck!

I think, in the end, it boils down to the question - what does your conscience tell you?
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Old 1st October 2009
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Conscience on these issues probably will be measured.
I also have rosary, and crusifix of benediktus nursian, that was man who start, traditional monastery action here in west, 400ad?.
These are only symbolic to me.

The Church has early to respect the holy people, martyrs examble.
However, early church was´t worshiped relics, like Middle Ages Roman catholics.

Personally, I think holy people, mainly as a role model.
I do not pray the saints, because they are the only people who are waiting for the resurrection, like other.
I do not believe that they are in heaven and pray for us.
I think that is Jesus Job front of his Father.

Jewelry that is dedicated to somebody directly to the holy, like Maria.
Must however be viewed cautiously,
Because the world is billions of people who call these objects through, and the strength of the cult of Mary, also attracts evil spirits

I actually destroyed some religious objects because I felt so strongly to destroy them.
I believe that God warned me?

But I think that is a medal of dismas is innocent, when to take it to the symbolic, and do not pray it through, like the Catholics do, or imagine that it has some magic powers.That is of cource only my view.

Icons examble are nice pictures, and remind us of person in picture.
Icons of the fineness of expression is also a man wants to pursue what it figuratively can not see.
But when we begin to worship and pray to the icon, then we have made a Jesus prostitute.
including the Orthodox Church has a long tradition explains that it does not worship icons.
they explain that they only pray for a object that is behind the image, not a picture.
As Catholics also explains about Maria.

But these are only weak evidence, to explain the human tendency to worship the idols.
Satan is able to abused the natural human religiousness in his purposes.

It is not wrong to use the images and icons, when we worship God, beacause our senses need these objects, that we understand separate the everyday life and holy meettings like eukarist.

if we try to rationally explain things, like why priest need alba, whan hi lead Mass? My opinion is that, we need these kind of thinks. That is no pagan outfit like JW usually tell us. We need difrent costumes that we can also raises a sense of holiness.
That is nothing wrong.
These are only examples when we discuss, these things.
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Old 1st October 2009
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I agree. I wear my St.Dismas medal to remind myself how far I've come and to always distance myself from my old life as a sinful law breaker.
I never agreed with praying to Saints, even when I was Roman Catholic. I always thought that some of the Saints were just people whose holiness set an example for all of humanity to follow.

I was thinking about crafting a St.Arius medal, but I'm afraid I don't have the artistic skill as of yet.

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I agree. I wear my St.Dismas medal to remind myself how far I've come and to always distance myself from my old life as a sinful law breaker.
I never agreed with praying to Saints, even when I was Roman Catholic. I always thought that some of the Saints were just people whose holiness set an example for all of humanity to follow.

I was thinking about crafting a St.Arius medal, but I'm afraid I don't have the artistic skill as of yet.

Yours in God & Christ,
Joe
Praise the Lord! That you have that kind of view about that.
The story was much familiar ideas. It is good that you have put trust in the Lord, and give up your previous Life and reject acts of satan.
I have that kind of experience too.
Dismas was man, who was humble, and hi was´t accused Jesus, like the other robber on the cross.
Hi only begged Jesus to remember him also.
I have done some Silver works, rings and necklaces examble.
That is good idea make a own medal.
Maybe one day this church is united, that we have same practices.

I hope you find inspiration for experimentation
God bless you
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I agree. I wear my St.Dismas medal to remind myself how far I've come and to always distance myself from my old life as a sinful law breaker.
I never agreed with praying to Saints, even when I was Roman Catholic. I always thought that some of the Saints were just people whose holiness set an example for all of humanity to follow.

I was thinking about crafting a St.Arius medal, but I'm afraid I don't have the artistic skill as of yet.

Yours in God & Christ,
Joe
There are two main ways to learn bas relief carving that is inexpensive. The method you choose will depend upon whether you wish to cast or "strike" the medal.

Despite this, the tools for learning how to make the mold or die are the same, and quite inexpensive.

One way is to fill a sturdy pie pan with parafin or wax that has been colored dark. It is then possible to practice carving in relief or in negative-relief. When you have gone as far as you desire in a particular attempt, you need only replace the carved-away wax into the pan and place it in an oven at LOW temperature for a while until the wax melts together again and, upon cooling, gives a smooth surface to try again.

If you are planning on "striking" the medallions, you will be practicing negative-relief carving. As you progress in sinking your die, you can test the progress by gently pressing some child's soft play-doh into the negative. When you gently pull it out, you will see the positive that would be struck. (remember, you need to reverse all text). The "play-doh" can be reused endlessly.

With some practice in these 2 techniques, you will learn on a large scale the principles you will use under a magnifying glass to make the actual masters for your medals.

If you wish to know more, PM me, or I can post more here. lol
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Dear Brothers & Sisters,

Is it a sin to wear medals of saints who were likely trinitarians? (e.g. St.Francis). I have a St. Dismas (the good theif) medal, but since he was not trinitarian so I have no problem wearing it, but would it be profane for an Arian Catholic to wear a medal of a saint who was pro-trinity?

God Bless,
Joe
Well, Arian Catholics do honour Benedict of Nursia, so they do wear medals with his image on, gotten from the OSB, from which is derived the acOSB, which is an Arianised OSB.
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Well, Arian Catholics do honour Benedict of Nursia, so they do wear medals with his image on, gotten from the OSB, from which is derived the acOSB, which is an Arianised OSB.
Some pictures.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Go...t_crucifix.jpg
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