Chariots of the G-ds

[Danage]

I recently read an article on the book, Chariots of the G-ds, and this book says that divine intervention and miracles are mankind's contact with aliens and extra-terrestrials.

The theory revolves around a load of lines in Peru and the Pyramids of Egypt, the Mayans, the Toltecs and Bosnia-Herzegovnia (they used this part for the 1970's series, Battlestar Galactica). While it does seem odd that pyramids appeared on different sides of the Atlantic, the fact that this occured does not imply anything other than coincidence. That part debunked.

Another point of the book is that the Wheels of Fire of Ezekiel could be a ship landing, or crashing. This shows the author has a basic, literal grasp of Biblical scripture.

A third point of the book wwas a cave drawing of what might be interpreted as astronaughts. This could very well be fake.

A fourth point is the amazing technological feats of the ancient tribes of the world (e.g. the various Pyramids, Stonehenge), but this could be human genius.

A fifth point is the idea that G-d is infact manty aliens with contact with Earth, manipulating the planet and perhaps even creating humanity. This shows a weak understanding of genetics.

There are, of course, many other arguments, but the idea of G-d being an alien race is blasphemy and holds no grounding. While the arguments bring up points for discussion the very idea is a ridicule of G-d and the angels.

[Postulare42]

There's tabloidism, again. These books and "documentaries" were quite a fad in the U.S.A. during the 70s and 80s. ( I and some friends appear in a segment of one such, called "Mysteries from Beyond Earth". We had fun staging a "ritual" for the "marks". What a piece of trash!) Mostly, they were read/viewed by an only slightly more literate group than that which keeps the tabloids in business. This same segment of the population were the very ones who kept the relics business and saints' cults going in the middle ages.

I don't think that mockery can affect any being that doesn't have the glands to get upset with. I, on the other hand, can be irritated, but am usually only pityingly amused. It's not very Xian, but I hope I am forgiven.

I have been a reader of "The Skeptical Inquirer" for decades.

Occams Razor is a two-edged sword, and that can keep one humble . . .if the truth is "in him" to begin with. I am always open to the fact that God will remain larger than I, or my ancestors, or my descendants, will ever conceive. Which doesn't mean that I will fall for every speculation that comes down the pipe. Neither will I get very ruffled over it.

The REAL wonders of God's creation, and the joy of investigating God's handiwork through scientific enquiry are really enough for me.

[Archbishop Michael-John]

Just a quick comment that I read about ten years ago that evidence suggested that these people had sailed across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and had also calculated the circumference of the world with astonishing accuracy, deriving their unit of length from this!!!

They were clearly very clever Mathematicians!

[Danage]

Just a quick comment that I read about ten years ago that evidence suggested that these people had sailed across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and had also calculated the circumference of the world with astonishing accuracy, deriving their unit of length from this!!!

They were clearly very clever Mathematicians!

Exactly. It is mankind's genius, and not intervention from extra-terrestrials (which I don't believe exist by the way).

[Danage]

Glen A. Larson, creator of Battlestar Galactica (the proper one), combined Mormon legends with Chariots of the G-ds.

The idea of 13 tribes derives from Mormonism. The Thirteenth Tribe is lost in America (Earth) and when the people are persecuted (the Twelve Colonies destroyed) the wagon train to the west (Battlestar Galactica and the convoy) eventually discovers the Thirteenth Tribe in Utah (Earth).

The whole myth is further made ludicrous. Kolob (Kobol) is the star closet unto G-d (planet where Mankind originated) and there are several species in the Universe. All these people derive from spirit beings (the Ship of Lights represent the first Degree of Glory/first Heaven).

The Chariots of the G-ds actually agrees with Mormonism in saying G-d was a man and that there are other species (of Man) in the Universe. We know this to be ludicrous and an insult unto G-d.

[David Kone]

The Chariots of the G-ds actually agrees with Mormonism in saying G-d was a man and that there are other species (of Man) in the Universe. We know this to be ludicrous and an insult unto G-d.

I love you brother, but I do not believe that any man has the power to insult God. Can I ask why you seem to be fixated on Mormons? I am a cultural Mormon whether or not I hold to all their teachings. Do you believe that only those with perfect belief will go to heaven?

One of my ancestors became one of the earliest members of that movement but his wife was very upset about his participation. She got so angry one day that she packed up her bags and went to live with a friend. One evening a couple of traveling preachers stopped by and launched into a virulent sermon berating Mormons. Suddenly, she stood up and interrupted their tirade. "They are good people," she shouted. Immediately she packed up her things and went back to her husband and never disagreed on the subject again.

They are good people.

[Danage]

I love you brother, but I do not believe that any man has the power to insult God. Can I ask why you seem to be fixated on Mormons? I am a cultural Mormon whether or not I hold to all their teachings. Do you believe that only those with perfect belief will go to heaven?

One of my ancestors became one of the earliest members of that movement but his wife was very upset about his participation. She got so angry one day that she packed up her bags and went to live with a friend. One evening a couple of traveling preachers stopped by and launched into a virulent sermon berating Mormons. Suddenly, she stood up and interrupted their tirade. "They are good people," she shouted. Immediately she packed up her things and went back to her husband and never disagreed on the subject again.

They are good people.


I do apologise for insulting your faith, again. I am not fixated with Mormons, but their (and I assume your) beliefs about pre-existent beings, extra-terestials etc. seems too foreign to me. I have been told I am obsessed with religion which has perhaps contributed, in part, to my mental illness.

I do not deny that Mormons, or any people, are good people. I disagree with the Mormon Church, with the Roman Catholic Church, with many churches, but I still believe that there is good in all.

In response to this:
I love you brother, but I do not believe that any man has the power to insult God.
I write:
I believe that Mormonism has mixed beliefs, and thus is not the most coherrent of belief systems. I may have believed that they were insulting G-d, but the belief system on pre-existent spirits and "As man is G-d was and as G-d is man may become" sounds more akin to Buddhism (the Devas) and not Christianity.

[David Kone]

Thank you for your honest answer. I have to admit that most of the trappings of Catholicism, even Arian Catholicism, are as foreign to me as the notion of extraterrestrials. I am making a serious effort to understand the implications of their rituals and beliefs. I look for the both the cohesiveness of their theology and the possible advantages Catholicism holds for my own growth. It is the later which is the most important. A tree is known by its fruit.

Oh, you did not nor can anyone insult my faith. It is built on that solid rock by He who made all rocks and I do not own it, it owns me.

[Postulare42]

Just a quick comment that I read about ten years ago that evidence suggested that these people had sailed across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and had also calculated the circumference of the world with astonishing accuracy, deriving their unit of length from this!!!

They were clearly very clever Mathematicians!
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Eratosthenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JHEqBLG650&feature=related

and from the same series, on the Library of Alexandria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jixnM7S9tLw&feature=related

Related, on the size of the sun and moon, Aristarchus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zioSpV2yq24

[Hermes]

Carl Sagan! :-)()