Ten Commandments or eleven?

[miseretur]

Deu 10:4 where the LORD wrote the Ten Commandments on them, just as he had done the first time. The commandments were exactly what he had announced from the fire, when you were gathered at the mountain. After the LORD returned the stones to me,

This verse dont say eleven commandments, and other translation says "ten words" I think that it is ok spoke ten commandments than eleven...
And in this verse says in the "first time" then it is the same 10 words what was in the Exo.20:1-17. Even this dont say us it is 10 words, but Deu.10:4 says it. What is church answer in this question? because the arian church teach eleven command. I am curious to know:) how important this is to your church.

[The Kurgan]

Dear Miseretur,

The Bible makes reference to the Ten Commandments (or Words according to the Rotherham's Emphasised Bible) in three places: Exodus 34:28 and Deuteronomy 4:13 & 10:4; but the ACC website goes into much detail analysing Exodus and Deuteronomy (http://arian-catholic.org/arian/commandments.html) and reveals that there are actually thirteen distinct commands/statements in seventeen verses of Exodus and sixteen verses of Deuteronomy, some of which are clearly not laws but beliefs and also pertain only to the children of Israel; e.g. "I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage." However we can consistently find between Exodus and Deuteronomy eleven separate and distinct commandments.

Professor Andrew C. Zenos (Dean and Professor of Biblical Theology at McCormick Theological Seminary, Chicago) is quoted as saying: “The arrangement of the moral precepts in the form of ten commandments was neither demanded by the nature of the subject nor suggested by logical or philosophical considerations. It is the result of deference to the popular regard and conventional value of the number ten, recognized at the time.”

Therefore the number 10 was adhered to due to the popularity of the number and that of those who were literate at the time, few were accustomed to counting beyond ten fingers and therefore numbers beyond ten were often regarded with mystery or even fear.

The important point about this isn't so much the number of commandments, Protestant churches merge the fourth and fifth commandments to keep to the number ten, but the omission and mutilation of the commandments, which is a gross apostasy of Rome.

In contrast I would like to see another article on the Beatitudes as the Church's view is that there were four taken from the lost Q document, to which Matthew added a further four and Luke added four Woes. Matthew also uses six woes against the Pharisees. There is an interesting contrast between the spiritual character of the Messianic kingdom through the Beatitudes and the Mosaic Laws, which in fact led Marcion of Sinope to believe that the God of Moses was not the same God of Christ!

[miseretur]

Sorry my english is not so good, but are you saying that moses have diffrent God, Who was that God then? If I understand your writtings? Ok I see that arian Church teach these questions diffrently...

[brotherkev]

since were dealing with the Torah, according to biblical hebrew, I would say that there are 10...

[miseretur]

OH! Sorry My Misteke, now I understnad what you write:) heh...